Drag and Drop Questions 2

for question 9, can change the order in the exam?

Hi,

Q5: Checking switching training handout, learning phase is not mentioned there. What is correct?

Q9: routing = local, switching = distributed – is this realy correct? Why?

@ prince: I’m sure you can.
@ Armin: to Q9: my understanding is this: the new approach to VLan design is to use local VLans, because 80% of the today networks traffic leaves the LAN via a router or a L3 switch, which uses routing to forward the traffic.

That is how I understood it, maybe it’s wrong, if anybody has a better explanation to share, it would be appreciated.

@Laszlo – sounds logic for me

Hello guys..I think in Distributed VLANS : we have VTP server and VTP client,it leverages on Switching.
Local VLANS: leverages on routing as it has all the layer 2 information locally.It needs help for routing.It also needs STP for loop free lAyer 2 environment locally.

hi can anyone pls elaborate on q8, because i have different answers

I have read the CCNP book cover to cover, but I dont think I would have been able answer Question 9 if it came in the exam. I suppose thats why we need dumps.

Rok,

The information about the operating systems will be irrelevant when planning a VLAN, so two choices are eliminated.

Contention is between the answers, “What version of VTP is being used?” and “What routing protocol will be used?”.

I think the choice “What version of VTP is being used?” is more relevant for designing a VLAN.

@Anonymous

dont think if we need the VTP version at all. As per my understanding VTP version updates everytime there is a change in the VLAN so that is rather irrelevant info.

I think, since you will be implementing a NEW LOCAL vlan, there is no need to ask about VTP-related questions. Since it is new and local, you are responsable for makeing your own choice, this will not affect/not be affected by any existing setups. The existing ip routing setup, however should be taken into consideration, because it will influence the new setup that will try to connect to it.

in Q8
Contention is between the answers, “What version of VTP is being used?” and “What routing protocol will be used?”.

Which one correct choice pls help me.

give me the correct answer
You work as a network administrator at Company.com. Your boss is asking you about lightweight access points WLAN controller associations. What is the proper sequence a lightweight access point associates with a WLAN controller?

(drag and drop)

In Actual test 642-813 april freedomsyria

answer in dnd
Local vlan
-vtp transparent
-20/80 rule
-locally dependent
-leverages on routing

End to end
vtp client, server
80/20
locally independent
leverages on stp

Well but in nonentity (dnd)
local – leverages on stp
end to end – leverage on vtp

“Share your SWITCH Experience” has been missing from this site, and now “SWITCH FAQs & Tips” is too. (Left hand corner). Please whats going on?

1. Regarding questions 1, 2, and 8 above, must one organize them IN THE SPECIFIC ORDER LISTED in the answer above to be considered correct on the exam, or can one simply make sure to pick and drag the correct items in ANY ORDER?

2. Regarding #3 above: Must one put the dragged items in the specific order listed in the answer, or does one simply have to make sure each pair is dragged to the correct category? For instance, if instead of listing SNMP v1 as “get next request” followed by “unsolicited alert message” as listed in the answer, I reverse the very same pair in the v1 category, will it get counted correct, or incorrect?

3. Regarding #4 above: A different dump (syrian 145q?) lists the answer for the “Network Level” category as “NSF” followed by “RSTP.” The answer above lists it as “RSTP” followed by “NSF” (the same as the nonentity dump). If one reverses the order or the pair for any of the categories compared to the answer above, will the answer be correct or incorrect on the exam?

4. Regarding #7 above: Again, is the order of the paired items in each category important, or does one simply have to make sure to match the correct pair with the correct category in any order therein?

5. Regarding #9 above: Again…assuming the correct 4 choices for each category are made, must they be in a specific order or simply in the correct catergory in any order?

Thanks.

may be this link will be helpful about question 9:

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=-rnt_ik0mSYC&pg=PA145&lpg=PA145&dq=80/20+rule+in+vlans&source=bl&ots=LEcZy35v_m&sig=Y1yhxFRcYuw68JxTsbq4qMvOqlI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PUmuT5CON8zPrQekr5HvAw&ved=0CGIQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=80%2F20%20rule%20in%20vlans&f=false

explaination for question 9

Local VLANs

-20/80 rules, becouse must of ur applications are in another subnet so 20% of ur traffic is local and 80% of ur traffic is remote

-Leverages on routing, traffic passes from one subnet to an other

-Locally significant, a vlan number never cross beyond the distribution switch.

-Leverages on spanning-tree (vtp is no necessary since u will be configuring the access and distribution switch with the same vlan at must).

End to End VLANs

-80/20 rules, example u are connecting 2 sans from different buildings and must see each other in the same vlan and expect to have 80% of traffic local

-Leverages on switching, traffic passes from one switch to another in the same broadcast domain

-Globally significant, vlan traffic passes over multiple trunks and vlan propagates among multiple switches

-Leverages on VTP, its a requisite to avoid configuring vlans among mutiple switches.

Hello,

I think that this is the correct arrangement for the drag and drop question for LAP discovery process.
1. The lightweight AP requests an IP address via DHCP
2. The lightweight AP searches for a wireless LAN controller using LWAPP in Layer 2 mode.
3. The lightweight AP sends a LWAPP Discovery Request to the management IP address of the wireless LAN controller via broadcast
4. The wireless LAN controller responds with a Discovery Response from the Manager IP address.
5. The lightweight AP chooses the AP Manager with the least number of associated access points and sends the join request.
Note: The LAPs issue a DHCP discovery request to get an IP address, unless it has previously had a static IP address configured.
Please correct me if you feel this is wrong.

Regarding the ordering of the questions 1,2,4,7,8,9 is the order important?
since the vce are incorrecting me alot because of the incorrect order. just wanna be sure since I am gonna take the test this may 31

dear’s
regarding question #2 if you compare answer with mustafa dumps answer is not the same

which one is correct ? need help
thanks in advance

dear’s
also the question no 9 difference if we compare with mustafa dumps, which one is important exam point if view ??

Q#8 which one is correct,

Contention is between the answers, “What version of VTP is being used?” and “What routing protocol will be used?”.

Hello,
I think that this is the correct arrangement for the drag and drop question for LAP discovery process.
1. The lightweight AP requests an IP address via DHCP
2. The lightweight AP searches for a wireless LAN controller using LWAPP in Layer 2 mode.
3. The lightweight AP sends a LWAPP Discovery Request to the management IP address of the wireless LAN controller via broadcast
4. The wireless LAN controller responds with a Discovery Response from the Manager IP address.
5. The lightweight AP chooses the AP Manager with the least number of associated access points and sends the join request.
Note: The LAPs issue a DHCP discovery request to get an IP address, unless it has previously had a static IP address configured.
Please correct me if you feel this is wrong.

Muneer wrote

“Q#8 which one is correct, ?

Contention is between the answers, “What version of VTP is being used?” and “What routing protocol will be used?”. ”

In addition

Q#2 which one is correct ?
Contention is between the answers, “Verify that VTP is pruning the proper access ports ” and “Verify that the data and voice VLANs are NOT assigned a trunk’s native VLAN”

Please answer ASAP because my exam is tomorrow

Thanks in advance

@ Nick,

For Q#2:

“Verify that VTP is pruning the proper access ports ” is the correct answer.

Q#8 which one is correct,
Contention is between the answers, “What version of VTP is being used?” and “What routing protocol will be used?”.

In Q8 you don’t CARE what version of VTP is being used.

That’s because you implement a LOCAL VLAN model for which Cisco recommends setting VTP to transparent and creating all the VLANs manually on each switch.

Hence information about VTP is irrelevant in this case. At the very least way less important than IP routing protocol that you will need to setup on your distribution switch (or even on the access switch if you use routed links between access and distribution).

there is one new D & D question :

can you please show me a way to share it???

Can some provide clarity on Q8.

Hi All,

Can someone please confirm the correct order for Q8 ?

Thanks you all.

Per CCCNP book 80/20 –80%local -20% crossing network

and 20/80 is for distributed network

Answer is Q9 seems wrong to me..Anyone??

Q4 : NFS Or NSF ?????

NFS: Network File System (NFS), NFS protocol provides transparent remote access to shared file systems across networks. The NFS protocol is designed to be machine, operating system, …

Q9: answer correct, distributed network is the same as end-to-end VLAN where 80% local traffic

Q4: NSF = Nonstop Forwarding, for Supervisor and Route Redundancy

Q9====

Consider this diagram for local vlans, since local vlans are implemented only in one switch, it does not have any significance for other access switch. Thats is why leverages on routing becaus it need another equipement between to route packets from one acess sw to another. (DSW1 is peforming routing functions)

ASW1———————-DSW1———————–ASW2

VLAN1 SVI1/SVI2 VLAN2

Distributed vlans use more switching technique since trafic must passed over some switches to reach a destination.

(DSW1 is peforming switching functions)

ASW1——————–DSW1————————ASW1

VLAN1 VLAN1 VLAN1

I hope this can help U, cheers.

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Hi guys i just want to verify. do i need to put all the D and D in order even though it’s not stated in the question? Thanks in advance

Question #2 – is this posted as a correct answer? There seems to be some contention in the comments about it “@ Nick, For Q#2: “Verify that VTP is pruning the proper access ports ” is the correct answer.

How can this be? Doesn’t VTP prune on TRUNK links only, NOT access ports? – so the published answer stands as correct?

+ Verify that there is inter-switch connectivity
+ Verify that the data and voice VLANs are NOT assigned a trunk’s native VLAN)
+ Verify that the needed Switch Virtual interfaces have been created
+ Verify that the proper ports are assigned to the VLAN

Help, I’m confused now, exam looming….

Anyone that passed the exam can confirm the veracity of Q2 and Q8 ????

I’m with Andy M on Q2 -

In Q8 you don’t CARE what version of VTP is being used.

That’s because you implement a LOCAL VLAN model for which Cisco recommends setting VTP to transparent and creating all the VLANs manually on each switch.

Nor are you interested in anything to do with Operating Systems. Therefore I believe the published answer is indeed correct, by a process of elimination…you end up with.

+ Is there inter-switch connectivity?
+ What routing protocol will be used?
+ What VLANs are available on each switch?
+ What switch ports are available in each building?
+ What IP addresses are available on each subnet?

Which one is correct?
its GLOP -

Local Vlan

-loccally significant
-20/80 rule
-leverages on routing
-leverages on stp

Distributed vlan

-Globally significant
-leverages on routing
-80/20 rule
-leverages on vtp

Its Cert

Local vlan:
+ 20/80 rule
+ leverages on stp
+ leverages on routing
+ locally significant

Distributed vlan:
+ 80/20 rule
+ leverages on vtp
+ leverages on switching
+ globally significant

Does the order matter in D&D questions? Are VLAN drag and drops still in the test. I think they put those there just so you can fail.

Q.9 the ccnp switch book we can find that 80/20 is local and 20/80 is end to end (first is local traffic second is remote ) so I do not understand why it is opposite here, Anon already asked for that but everyone are doing like it is in dumps

Hi gg

In “Switch Official certification guide”, read Chapter 4:

- p69: “End-to-end VLANs should group users according to common requirements. All users in a
VLAN should have roughly the same traffic flow patterns, following the 80/20 rule”

- p70: “most enterprise networks have moved toward the 20/80 rule (where server and in-tranet/Internet resources are centralized), end-to-end VLANs have become cumbersome
and difficult to maintain”

With the old 80/20 rule where most traffic stayed in the Campus LAN, it was interesting to have end-to-end vlans, so that users placed in different locations and communicating together were in the same vlan, there was not a lot of routing required.

Now with the 20/80 rule, anyway most of the traffic leaves the Campus LAN to go to servers in the Datacenter. So having large end-to-end vlans covering all the campus is not really interesting anymore

Bubil I have done some researching and to my surprise the answer here was correct and it was much similar to what you have written here, thx

Hello..

Can someone help me to Question Number 2?
Which is the correct answer between
” Verify that the data and voice VLANs are NOT assigned a trunk’s native VLAN” or Verify that the needed Switch Virtual Interface have been created ?

Thanks.

Hey guys,

about the WLAN question, have a look at this document:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a00806c9e51.shtml.

So the correct answer is:
1. The IP address is statically configured on the lightweigh AP.
2. The lightweight AP requests an IP address via DHCP
3. The lightweight AP searches for a wireless LAN controller using LWAPP in Layer 2 mode.
4. The lightweight AP sends a LWAPP Discovery Request to the management IP address of the wireless LAN controller via broadcast
5. The wireless LAN controller responds with a Discovery Response from the Manager IP address.
6. The lightweight AP chooses the AP Manager with the least number of associated access points and sends the join request.

bye

please can anybody tell does the order of the placement of the correct answers matter, or not??

in drag n drops.. the order of the correct answers matter or not? because in .vce tests.. it mark your answer wrong !

Hi, as SUM and ZEE ask, please, someone tell us if the order matters or not ? Thanks

new D&D

question about priority in traffic flow:
options to choose:
1. voice
2. video streamming
3. data
4. voice signalling
5. video interactive
6. routing protocol

@ dms,

Had this D&D today. there was no “data” in this D&D.

I have D&D 1,3,4,8 in my exam today. I passed with 923

hello David ,

D&D must be sort in order?

@brutus850

What did you have and what is the correct order? Something like this? thx

Voice
Video Interactive
Video Streaming
Call Signaling
IP Routing
Network Management

@David N
please can you reply to the question:
must be D&D in order?
Taking the exam next Friday.

Q8: Hi, i’m stil starting my study to SWITCH but i think that the VTP version is very important in this case, because in VTP the transparent mode is version dependent. The v1 will only forward information if the version and domain are equal and the version 2 doesn’t do this check.

I am so shitfaced

what are the current questions for ccnp switch 642 813

meaning current lab sims

pls let me knw is it compulsory to keep D&D in order as in dumps or this site

It’s still valid this

@shree

you dont need to keep it in order

just like your CCNA exam.

Cisco is not stricted to get it in order.

unless the question ask to keep ur answers in order

cisco is not strict to get it in order

Q1, Q3 ,Q4 on the test today

Q1,Q3, Q6 & Q7 on test today

oops sorry, not Q3, I had Q2.

Q9 need to complete explanation for local vlan and distributed Vlan what is meant by 80/20 and 20/80 rule. why leverage on stp and leverage of routing under local vlan and levarge on vtp and leverage on switching in ditributed vlan..

@Dinesh

80/20 means 80 persent traffic is local and 20% is towards the internet similarly the opposite for 20/80.
20/80 leverage on routing because 80% traffic in not local and require routing to internet etc
similarly 80/20 leverages on switching and vtp as most of the user traffic is local and for ease of managment require vtp…

for further clearing ur concept please check the starting chapters of cisco press book for switch the design section

hope it has been informative for u..

Q1, Q3, Q4 on the Exam today

Hi every body, Pls answer the most wanted question, as VCE marke’s it wrong, DOES THE D & D QUESTIONS NEEDS TO BE IN ORDER, OR CAN IT BE IN ANY ORDER, IF ANY ORDER IS OK THEN HOW WILL THE SYSTEM MATCH THE CORRECT ANSWER . PLS PLS PLS NEED AN ANSWER FOR THIS, THANK YOU.

Q2) In place of “Verify that the data and voice VLANs are NOT assigned a trunk´s native VLAN” I prefer “Verify that VTP is pruning the proper access port”.

But I’m confused, in the first answer I think the native vlan traffic is untagged but passes through the trunk if the vlan is allowed, leaving perform routing. In the second response the vlan pruning is done in the trunk and not on access ports.
Can anyone clarify the correct answer?

thanks

@Meke

You should always change the trunks native VLAN to something other than VLAN 1.
And yes, you prune trunks, not access ports.

Ok but wich of two possible answers are the correct?

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