Private VLAN
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Quick review: The main purpose of Private VLAN (PVLAN) is to provide the ability to isolate hosts at Layer 2 instead of Layer 3. As you know, a VLAN is a broadcast domain, by using PVLAN we are splitting that domain into some smaller broadcast domains. For example, without PVLAN, a service provider wants to increase security by isolating customers into separate domains so that they can’t access each other, they have to assign them into different VLANs and use different subnets. This can result in a waste of IP addresses and difficulty in VLAN management. Private VLANs (PVLANs) can solve this problem by allowing the isolation of devices at Layer 2 in the same subnet. PVLAN can be considered “VLANs inside VLAN”. There are three types of ports in PVLAN: * Isolated: only communicate with promiscuous ports. Notice that it cannot even communicate with another isolated port. Also, there can be only 1 isolated VLAN per PVLAN.
For example, in the topology above: + Host A cannot communicate with Host B, C, D, E and F. It can only communicate with Promiscuous port to the router. Notice that even two Isolated ports in the same VLAN cannot communicate with each other. + Host C can communicate with Host D because they are in the same community but Host C cannot communicate with E and F because they are in a different community. + All hosts can go outside through promiscuous port. Also I want to mention about the concept of “primary VLAN” and “secondary VLAN”. PVLAN can have only one primary VLAN; all VLANs in a PVLAN domain share the same primary VLAN. Secondary VLANs are isolated or community VLANs.
Configuration of PVLAN: 1. Set VTP mode to transparent Sample configuration used the topology above: //First set VTP to transparent mode //Create secondary VLANs //Create primary VLAN //Associate secondary (isolated, community) VLANs to the primary VLAN //Assign Promiscuous port to the port connected to the router, with the primary VLAN mapped to the secondary VLAN. //Ports connected to hosts A, B, C, D, E, F are configured in host mode and assign to appropriate VLANs (A and B to isolated VLAN 101; C and D to community VLAN 102; E and F to community VLAN 103): Switch(config-if)# interface range f0/3 -0/4 //connect to host C and D Switch(config-if)# interface f0/5 – 0/6 //connect to host E and F To check the configuration, use this command: Switch# show vlan private-vlan |
Question 1
Explanation
Before configuring private VLANs, we must set VTP mode to transparent because VTP version 1 and 2 do not support private VLAN (VTP version 3 does support PVLAN). Notice that a switch in VTP transparent mode still forwards other VTP updates to its neighbors.
Question 2
Explanation
There are three types of ports in PVLAN:
* Isolated: only communicate with promiscuous ports. Notice that it cannot even communicate with another isolated port. Also, there can be only 1 isolated VLAN per PVLAN.
* Promiscuous: can communicate with all other ports. The default gateway is usually connected to this port so that all devices in PVLAN can go outside.
* Community: can communicate with other members of that community and promiscuous ports but cannot communicate with other communities. There can be multiple community VLANs per PVLAN.
Question 3
Explanation
Isolated VLAN is a secondary VLAN and it can only communicate with the promiscuous port. Also, there can be only 1 isolated VLAN per PVLAN (although this isolated VLAN can be configured to many ports, but these ports cannot communicate with each other).
Question 4
Explanation
Promiscuous port: can communicate with all other ports. The default gateway is usually connected to this port so that all devices in PVLAN can go outside.
Question 5
Explanation
The default gateway is usually connected to promiscuous port so that all devices in PVLAN can go outside.
Question 6
Question 7
Question 8
Question 9
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Q1, Why is the answer not D, configure VTP version 3?
Even the explanation says this: “VTP version 3 does support PVLAN”
Q5,
why should I configure the gateway ON the Router as promiscuous port??
I understand Q4, because that’s the port of the switch, but the Gateway is Layer 3.
@perpelexed, it is the gateway so everyone can go through,therefore it should be promiscuous so as to allow members of the isolated and community vlans go out to the internet.
@GnB
I understand the concept that you’re trying to explain, I’d like to see the actual config for that.
I’ve touched many routers in production networks and I’ve never seen a Layer 3 interface configured like that.
I found the router on the stick versions, with subinterfaces for different vlans, running trunk, but still never seen the actual need to configure the router port as promiscuous, the actual layer 3 gateway.
I can’t find the command on any routed interface.
The port on the switch that connects to the router will be promiscuous, but the port of the router will simply be a layer 3 port with an IP address part of that subnet.
I’d love to hear more opinions, or some actual config example.
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Q#1. i was thinking the same but nobody discussed about it
”Q1, Why is the answer not D, configure VTP version 3?
Even the explanation says this: “VTP version 3 does support PVLAN”
@SAM & oofus
i do believe both answers are correct. it depends on how the question is asked. but also the question asked is not clear. Let’s just assume that the switch isn’t capable of using VTP version 3. so the only solution left is to set the VTP mode to transparent
Q1. The answer is C. The first step to configuring Private VLANs is to switch to VTP Transparent mode. That is right out of the Cisco Software Configuration Guide.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3750/software/release/12-2_55_se/configuration/guide/scg3750/swpvlan.html
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I believe you are right. the router/L3 port doesn’t need to be configured as trunk, access, isolated, community, or ever promiscuous.
but the switch/ L2 port connected to gate way devices must be promiscuous as long as we have PVALNs on that switch, I guess.
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@perplexed
wmohammad’s comment is correct
@slothar, that documentation is old. VTP v3 also supports PVLans in server mode.
“In VTP versions 1 and 2, the switch must be in VTP transparent mode when you create private VLANs and when they are configured, you should not change the VTP mode from transparent to client or server mode. VTP version 3 also supports private VLANs in client and server modes.”
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/12-2_52_se/configuration/guide/3560scg/swvtp.html
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@slothar, not sure what part of your link you read but here is a little section from your link that confirms that for switches running VTP version 3, PVLans can be configured in all modes (it isn’t compulsory to change the mode to Transparent).
– If the switch is running VTP version 1 or 2, you must set VTP to transparent mode. After you configure a private VLAN, you should not change the VTP mode to client or server. For information about VTP, see Chapter14, “Configuring VTP” VTP version 3 supports private VLANs in all modes.
– With VTP version 1 or 2, after you have configured private VLANs, use the copy running-config startup config privileged EXEC command to save the VTP transparent mode configuration and private-VLAN configuration in the switch startup configuration file. Otherwise, if the switch resets, it defaults to VTP server mode, which does not support private VLANs. VTP version 3 does support private VLANs.
– VTP version 1 and 2 do not propagate private-VLAN configuration. You must configure private VLANs on each device where you want private-VLAN ports unless the devices are running VTP version 3.
Q1 I think C is right. VTP 3 isn`t available on all switches so it will be better to set transparent
Q3
Which private VLAN can have only one VLAN and be a secondary VLAN that carries unidirectional traffic upstream from the hosts toward the promiscuous ports and the gateway?
Is A really the correct answer?
According to wikipedia this is not the case, apparently we can have more then one isolated vlan / PVLAN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_VLAN
“There can be multiple Isolated VLANs in one Private VLAN domain”
Q3 – Conficting information –
Understanding Primary, Isolated, and Community Private VLANs
Primary VLANs and the two types of secondary VLANs (isolated and community) have these characteristics:
Primary VLAN— The primary VLAN carries traffic from the promiscuous ports to the host ports, both isolated and community, and to other promiscuous ports.
Isolated VLAN —An isolated VLAN is a secondary VLAN that carries unidirectional traffic upstream from the hosts toward the promiscuous ports. *****You can configure multiple isolated VLANs in a private VLAN domain; all the traffic remains isolated within each one. Each isolated VLAN can have several isolated ports, and the traffic from each isolated port also remains completely separate.
Community VLAN—A community VLAN is a secondary VLAN that carries upstream traffic from the community ports to the promiscuous port and to other host ports in the same community. You can configure multiple community VLANs in a private VLAN domain. The ports within one community can communicate, but these ports cannot communicate with ports in any other community or isolated VLAN in the private VLAN.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/configuration/guide/cli/CLIConfigurationGuide/PrivateVLANs.html
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@perplexed
I believe you are right regarding configuring a router port as promiscuous. Maybe the question wasn’t formulated correctly. Anyone who understands about layer 2 and layer 3 switching and routing will know that only a port that is attached to the switch that supports private-vlans will be configured as “promiscuous,” therefore, if a router, for instance, is attached on the other side of that link, will behave as a normal routing port, and will be configured with an Ip address, so the devices within the vlans can get out from the primary vlan. Think about “multilayer-switch.” You might want to create a virtual interface. In this case you have to map the secondary vlans on that interface.
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You must configure Transparent mode in VTP 2. The question states that you are using vtp 2, and what must be done before you configure vtp 3.
Private VLANs can only be configured when VTP is in transparent/off modes in VTP version 1 or 2 and in server/transparent/off modes in VTP version 3 when pruning is turned off
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Q2 isn’t that supposed to be answer A
An isolated port has complete Layer 2 separation from other ports within the same PVLAN. This separation includes broadcasts, and the only exception is the promiscuous port. A privacy grant at the Layer 2 level occurs with the block of outgoing traffic to all isolated ports. Traffic that comes from an isolated port forwards to all promiscuous ports only.
ref https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/lan-switching/private-vlans-pvlans-promiscuous-isolated-community/40781-194.html
just ignore the above, I was looking at wrong question
On which PVLAN type can host ports communicate with promiscuous ports?
A. primary
B. community
C. promiscuous
D. isolated
Answer: A
This question doesn’t make sense at all.
■ Promiscuous: The switch port connects to a router, firewall, or other common gateway
device. This port can communicate with anything else connected to the primary
or any secondary VLAN. In other words, the port is in promiscuous mode, in which
the rules of private VLANs are ignored.
■ Host : The switch port connects to a regular host that resides on an isolated or community
VLAN. The port communicates only with a promiscuous port or ports on
the same community VLAN.
So both community and isolated PVLANs can communicate with promiscuous ports.
An Nonymouse…
You have the following;
PVLANS PORT-Types can be either HOSTS or PROMISCUOUS.
– As set under the interface/port when configuring.
PVLANS Types can be Community (host port-type) Isolated (host port-type) or Primary (Promiscuous port-type)
– As set within the Vlan config.
The question asks “on which PVLAN Type can host ports (***which can be either isolated or community**) communicate with promiscuous ports”
The only PVLAN type that allows this is the Primary.
So yes, both community and isolated PVLANS types can communicate with promiscuous PORT-types like you said, but they are both HOST PORT-types and to communicate with the PROMISCUOUS PORT-type they must use the PRIMARY pvlan type to do so.
Cisco are known to word some questions in a way that really challenges your understanding of things.
Can anyone answer”how many isolated vlans can one pvlan have? ” This lousy has two different answers
Q1- Cisco has contradicting information :
here : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3750/software/release/12-2_55_se/configuration/guide/scg3750/swpvlan.html
it says : VTP version 3 does support private VLANs
and here : https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3850/software/release/37e/consolidated_guide/b_37e_consolidated_3850_cg/configuring_private_vlans.pdf
it says : Private vlans are supported in transparent mode for VTP 1, 2 and 3. Private VLANS are also supported on server mode with VTP 3.
Which two statements about isolated private VLAN ports are true? (Choose two )
A. They can communicate only with promiscuous ports
B. They can be configured on the EtherChannel ports
C. They can be configured on more than one port in the same VLAN
D. They can be configured on only port on a device.
does someone know the answer of this question?
@rachel
From Cisco PVLAN config guide:
‘An isolated port is a host port that belongs to an isolated secondary VLAN. This port has complete isolation from other ports within the same private VLAN domain, except that it can communicate with associated promiscuous ports. Private VLANs block all traffic to isolated ports except traffic from promiscuous ports. Traffic received from an isolated port is forwarded only to promiscuous ports. You can have more than one isolated port in a specified isolated VLAN. Each port is completely isolated from all other ports in the isolated VLAN.’
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/configuration/guide/cli/CLIConfigurationGuide/PrivateVLANs.pdf